Thank you, Bear, for an excellent explanation which uses real life examples to show the pros and cons of the way 'the system' works and how it could be much better for everyone. PS glad to see you here after reading that you were blocking on the other side xx
EDI (UK): It's not equity though, it's equality and that can be problematic, because they are not the same thing. I wish it were equity, it would highlight the efforts that have to be made to achieve some form of equality as part of the process.
I am part of efforts to achieve EDI in UK state funded health and social care research and boy, whilst progress has been made, there's still a long way to go...
I think, that in addition to your excellent points, there exists another level of prejudice to be unearthed.
A level even more irrational.
Those who rail against 'woke' and proudly trumpet their 'anti-wokeness' are working to create a deep division between people that is the opposite of enlightenment, rationality and progress.
I suppose in a way it's Apollo/Dionysius
Ego/Id
but without the wild and emotionally redeeming features of Dionysius or the Id.
And why are they doing this?
To enhance their group security by identifying an enemy.
The whole thrust of DEI is surely an empowerment towards a more cohesive society, wherein we appreciate each other's differences, work towards a greater balance, so each member of society has an opportunity to make their best positive contribution, and then, we all benefit from those contributions. Surely it's logical to pursue? Thank you Mr. Bear.
Read a piece yesterday by Carol Vorderman in which she pointed out that in the media, particularly TV, only 8% come from working class backgrounds and she mentioned the revolving door between politics and media. No wonder much of our media is toxic.
I find fartage particularly galling; he claims to be a man of the people while actually dripping in wealth and privilege. There he is, moaning about inheritance tax for farmers whilst owning £3m of agricultural land which doesn't, as far as I know, grow a single crop.
Isn't it a pity that people only believe this when it's articulated by someone who isn't overwhelmingly "advantaged" by DEI policies? Over the years I've found that people just haven't believed me when I've spoken about the discrimination that I (and others) have encountered along the way.
I've spent my life as an advocate for DEI policies and it disgusts me that so many are so gleeful in seeing them being scrapped. That is why leaving Meta is so important for me.
Excellent. I also sum up the move against DEI by saying ditching DEI opens a wider door to greater discrimination and preserves privilege. Here and in US we can see that already taking hold.
I have been told by a senior employee of a scientific company that applying DEI means that theybvcannot say in job adverts that particular skills are needed. Is this the fault of DEI rules or are they interpreting them wrongly?
DEI matters, but it must be practised with care. In recruiting staff, you'll be looking to fill the criteria for DEI, but sometimes there's a shortage of applicants with the appropriate experience and /or academic qualifications, and often these cannot be sacrificed.
It's one goal, and sometimes that's not enough to win the match.
I was hoping for an example or two of the criteria for job or role competence reinforced by DEI criteria.
DEI ensures we have the right people in the company but then we need to make sure we have sufficient skills, knowledge and abilities to create and maintain a competent workforce.
Thank you, Bear, for an excellent explanation which uses real life examples to show the pros and cons of the way 'the system' works and how it could be much better for everyone. PS glad to see you here after reading that you were blocking on the other side xx
Excellent Bear. I particularly like the last paragraph.
EDI (UK): It's not equity though, it's equality and that can be problematic, because they are not the same thing. I wish it were equity, it would highlight the efforts that have to be made to achieve some form of equality as part of the process.
I am part of efforts to achieve EDI in UK state funded health and social care research and boy, whilst progress has been made, there's still a long way to go...
Well said, as ever.
I think, that in addition to your excellent points, there exists another level of prejudice to be unearthed.
A level even more irrational.
Those who rail against 'woke' and proudly trumpet their 'anti-wokeness' are working to create a deep division between people that is the opposite of enlightenment, rationality and progress.
I suppose in a way it's Apollo/Dionysius
Ego/Id
but without the wild and emotionally redeeming features of Dionysius or the Id.
And why are they doing this?
To enhance their group security by identifying an enemy.
Dear Athena, please help the human species.
Yes I agree. It’s all about power.
The whole thrust of DEI is surely an empowerment towards a more cohesive society, wherein we appreciate each other's differences, work towards a greater balance, so each member of society has an opportunity to make their best positive contribution, and then, we all benefit from those contributions. Surely it's logical to pursue? Thank you Mr. Bear.
Read a piece yesterday by Carol Vorderman in which she pointed out that in the media, particularly TV, only 8% come from working class backgrounds and she mentioned the revolving door between politics and media. No wonder much of our media is toxic.
I find fartage particularly galling; he claims to be a man of the people while actually dripping in wealth and privilege. There he is, moaning about inheritance tax for farmers whilst owning £3m of agricultural land which doesn't, as far as I know, grow a single crop.
Isn't it a pity that people only believe this when it's articulated by someone who isn't overwhelmingly "advantaged" by DEI policies? Over the years I've found that people just haven't believed me when I've spoken about the discrimination that I (and others) have encountered along the way.
I've spent my life as an advocate for DEI policies and it disgusts me that so many are so gleeful in seeing them being scrapped. That is why leaving Meta is so important for me.
Thank you Bear,and so well said
Excellent. I also sum up the move against DEI by saying ditching DEI opens a wider door to greater discrimination and preserves privilege. Here and in US we can see that already taking hold.
I have been told by a senior employee of a scientific company that applying DEI means that theybvcannot say in job adverts that particular skills are needed. Is this the fault of DEI rules or are they interpreting them wrongly?
Lovely piece, may I post it on https://dangerousglobe.com/
PLz?
DEI matters, but it must be practised with care. In recruiting staff, you'll be looking to fill the criteria for DEI, but sometimes there's a shortage of applicants with the appropriate experience and /or academic qualifications, and often these cannot be sacrificed.
It's one goal, and sometimes that's not enough to win the match.
I was hoping for an example or two of the criteria for job or role competence reinforced by DEI criteria.
DEI ensures we have the right people in the company but then we need to make sure we have sufficient skills, knowledge and abilities to create and maintain a competent workforce.